Forgot to say… took John and Jamie to the East Bay Vivarium on a lark and while we were there they fed a live, full-grown rabbit to a 30-foot python. The second it was in the cage that sleeping snake pounced, subsumed the whole rabbit head into its jaws, and wrapped its snake body around rabbit body. The rabbit squirmed and kicked for about five minutes before it was dead. They my phone rang and I talked to the DSL tech while watching the python detach its jaw, get end-to-end with the rabbit, and just engulf the rabbit’s body with its own. It was an awesome and disturbing thing to witness. The whole episode was about 18″ away from us behind the glass.